March Smart Phone Madness Game 6: Nexus One vs. Palm Pre Plus
March 22nd, 2010 by Marc Flores Voting has concluded for this contest, but more Smart Phone Madness awaits!
Welcome to the Game 6 of March Smart Phone Madness, ladies and gents, where we saw the BlackBerry Tour–this year’s Michigan State?– pull out a win over the Motorola Devour at the buzzer. Next up we have the Google Nexus One against the Palm Pre Plus. Both phones are equipped with capacitive touchscreens, but the Palm Pre Plus slides open to reveal a physical QWERTY keyboard. Will that give the webOS device a slight edge over the Android 2.1 handset?
The Google Nexus One earned an Editor’s Choice, and for good reason. The device, manufactured by HTC, is slim and sleek, but well built. It has the snappy 1GHz Snapdragon processor by Qualcomm which makes opening and running applications on the device a breeze. The Nexus One also has some neat tricks up its sleeve like live wallpapers and support for Google Earth and Google Navigation. Coupled with all the Apps available in the Android Market, the Nexus One is going to be a pretty tough phone to beat.
While it’s only available for T-Mobile USA, AT&T, and Rogers Wireless at the moment, it will be coming to Verizon and Sprint in the near future. Even though Nexus One sales have been slow compared to the iPhone 3GS and Motorola Droid, being available for every major carrier could give the Nexus One a huge boost with the right marketing and advertising. Like we’ve said before, the Nexus One is going to be a quadruple threat.
Up against the Nexus One is the Palm Pre Plus for Verizon. The “Plus” means that it has double the memory and RAM of its cousin on the Sprint network, the Palm Pre. The Palm Pre Plus does away with the little navigation ball on the face of the phone for a sleeker look. Sporting webOS, Palm’s gorgeous and intuitive operating system, along with a keyboard that is an improvement on the previous Pre, the Palm Pre Plus is a decent smart phone on a rock solid network. Plus, the phone can double as a Wi-Fi hotspot, a great feature if you need to connect your laptop to the Internet in a pinch.
What we didn’t like about the Pre Plus was its battery life and sometimes laggy performance – two very critical points in using a smart phone. In addition to that, app selection on webOS is very limited and we’re not sure how many developers are jumping on the bandwagon given Palm’s current position in the market.
So, which handset will pull off the win in this round? Will it be the hottest Android device on the market right now? Or will it be the finest webOS handset you can buy today?
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March 22nd, 2010 at 5:37 pm
The app selection on the Web OS keeps on expanding every day. Moreover, you can shop for thousand of applications compatible with “Palm OS Classic Emulator” by having “Classic” from Motion Apps installed on the Palm Web Os phones. Regarding the battery life, you can purchase an extended battery compatible with the Palm Web OS phones. Regarding the “laggy performance”, there are a few software issues that are being corrected and will be resolved in the next couple of weeks. The Palm Web OS phones are great, quite advanced. Cutting edge technology.Love it!!! With the Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi offered by Verizon, you can use the phone as a hot spot for up to 5 devices. It costs extra but it works great. Hey, it’s great to be one big hot spot!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:54 pm
You gotta be kitten me! The Pre is winning the Nexus One? Must be a lot of Android haters out there. The N1 is a far superior phone than the Pre.
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:40 pm
I sure hope that piece of crap iphone don’t win it all. That would suck. GO ANDROID!!!!!!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
let’s go pre!
March 22nd, 2010 at 6:59 pm
go Palm Pre!
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
I have a palm pre it’s the greatest. great multi tasking. Just the right mix and getting better day by day.WEBOS is the future…
March 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 pm
The N1 is far superior especially with the open os Android. Palm can’t keep up and will eventually go under.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
wow i can see theres ALOT OF PRE HATERS!!! talking s h i t n never even tried webos cause if they did they’ll knw webos is nice
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
They both suck! Android just sucks less than pre/pixi.
Sent from my iPhone
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Hmm. Almost 1,000 votes off from the n1? I think WebOS is right behind Android and close but not that far off. I mean, and unfortunately, Palm will be bought here in the next 12 months – probably by Google for IP rights if needed against Apple.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Does it really matter if the Pre wins over the N1? Google will soon own palm anyways.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
The fact that the Palm Pre is winning against the Nexus One should tell us that perhaps this contest should be judged by non-biased people who are educated about cell phones. I don’t have anything against the Palm Pre, I actually like the phone, but it doesn’t compare to the Nexus One. I don’t know if maybe Verizon customers are mad that they don’t have the Nexus One, but let us dispense with this patronizing nonsense that the Pre is superior to the Nexus One. Don’t worry Verizon customers, the Nexus One is coming your way eventually, then you’ll be able to make an educated vote.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Take it from a Palm Pre early adopter it’s a POS. Nexus one is the better phone hand down end of discussion.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Pre is a great phone, they marketed it very…. hell, they didn’t market it at all. It’s bound for failure and then all the “Greatest Little Phone that Should’ve” articles will appear. Nobody really wants to step up and champion it now though. You really have to spend some time with it to appreciate how good webOS is. I hope Flash and gaming will give the platform a boost.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Basically its Nexus One vs Iphone lovers and Palm Pre (plus) users. Of course the Nexus one is a better phone from the screen down to the hardware but It won’t win this fight. I’ve done plenty of research on all the phones listed in this fun tournament and I just have one thing to say. When my contract with t-mobile is up in 77 days (yes i’m counting), you can proudly add my name to the 135,000 nexus one users out there. Which brings up another point that its google’s fault (not the nexus one) why they’ve only sold that many units. ADVERTISING IS EVERYTHING. Television > Internet (advertising).
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
The N1 is a good phone and all. But its on a crappy carrier and the snapdragon processor is good and all. But last time I checked the pre plus could multitask with over 20 cards without much trouble, meaning even if the N1 was twice as fast it still wouldn’t be as productive as the pre+.
SO GO PRE, PALM, and WEBOS!!!!! AFTER YOU BEAT THE N1 THE IPHONE IS NEXT!!!! GOOOO!!!!
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 pm
I have both phones and I’d much rather use the Pre Plus on a daily basis than the N1. Sure, the N1 has more powerful hardware, but it doesn’t have a physical keyboard, is bigger, doesn’t multitask as well, and doesn’t have the awesome games. Oh, and the Google integration on the webOS device is just as good as on the N1…syncs to Google services are practically instantaneous.
They’re both good phones. One thing I think we can all agree on is that this shouldn’t have been a 1st-round match.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:49 pm
@ Rob S – Early adopters are not going to win at much… Basically all 1st gens and releases have issues. The Pre Plus is a stellar device with an intuitive, powerful (thanks 1.4/Wifi hotspot/synergy…) and tasteful OS.
The future is webOS.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
I just love my Pre. I am sure N1 is great, but my Pre+ feels like it was made for me
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Weird, I was going to say that Palm Pre Pluswas worse, but then I got distracted by the Live wallpapers on the Nexus One’s screen. Guess I’ll have to bash about how WebOS doesn’t have as many apps, isn’t as open as Android, has less support for the fantastic Google services and how its developer base is already small later.
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
How about making a non-bias description for the Pre. You basically described it as Suck ;-( While also putting in none of the negatives that you listed in your own review for the phone
“Meanwhile, so-so call quality and an occasionally clumsy typing experience actually make us prefer the bulkier, slower Droid in some situations.”
yeah, nothing like so-so call quality that would stop me from buying…….A PHONE!!!!!
Seriously, is this a war between editors choice vs editors choice?
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:04 pm
WebOS is the Best GO palm pre
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 pm
After a lot of research bought a palm pre.
Love the webos. Cards are simply ingenious.
Go Pre.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
I got the pre when it first came out and I admit it wasn’t the best but with every udate it gets better. Next n1 is a pretty nice phone as well havnt did that much research on it but from what I have heard it really gives pre a run for it’s money. The area that the plus is untouched in is multitasking I mean it can handle like 50 apps at the same time and I’m shure the n1 is still playin chatch up with the pre’s 8-12 apps at the same time so this ones going to the plus.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
PRE FTW! I will admit that the Nexus One has some sexy hardware but the Pre has WebOS…so it wins.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Android has better hardware, but anyone who has used a Pre knows the software is something you can’t leave.
Webos hardware needs revamping.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:20 pm
It figures, the iphone users are trying to defeat the android devices. If you don’t know anything about these devices don’t vote, it’s not a popularity contest. The palm is not even near as good of a phone as the nexus one. How can anyone vote for a phone that does not even come close on the specs. Also the app situation alone should make the nexus one the winner.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
r u kidding how in the world did the palm pre plus win???
THE NEXUS ONE IS ALOT BETTER…
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 pm
You know whats funny about this? Its not representative of what is actually happening, since Palm is going to either sell or go out of business. The Nexus One isnt going to disappear anytime soon.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 pm
why is the carrier involved?
Even though I use Android, and think it has the most potential
I predict that the winner will be a BackBerry, most likely the 9700 since you can get it on both ATT and T-Mo, and it has wifi which the Tour doesn’t have.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
First, these polls, while neat, are very much more a popularity contest instead of trying to figure out which phone is actually the best. That’s also why the iPhone 3Gs is a sure bet to win the whole thing. If Android’s flagship device can’t get enough of it’s fans to vote, then it deserves to lose.
That being said, considering how much I love my Sprint Pre, I know how much more I would love the Pre Plus’ extra memory and storage, as long as it were on Sprint, of course.
As I am unlikely to ever even see a Nexus One, let alone touch, play or use it, I can only compare it to other Android devices and, as such, I’m not impressed. Once I get my head around the OS, I’m sure it would be fine, but it would never ‘wow’ me.
Palm’s webOS, however, despite some not insignificant nitpicks, continually does.
March 22nd, 2010 at 9:49 pm
I love that WebOS is based on Linux & in many ways more open than Android. Nice to have two excellent open platforms! Palm Pre is amazingly intuitive and an incridible biz & entertainment machine…use it all day & all night!
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Palm Pre user here. Migrated from an Android device and have not looked back since. As described above, spend some time with WebOS and you will see whay all the palm pre and pre+ users feel so strongly about it. Even with the Supersonic coming to sprint soon, it’s still not enough sway me away from webos. Palm will be releasing new hardware soon.
Pre+ > N1
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Android is the new windows mobile. Fragmentation…buggy software… a poorly designed ui and difficult to use and code for bc of fragmentation of devices. The palm webos is clearly a better os and the mifi, touchstone charger, over the air updates, free online backups and superior multitasking makes this pretty clear.
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Palm Pre Plus FTW. Android is clunky by comparison, even on the Nexus One. And when a high-powered webOS device launches this summer? ……. It just may be Palm’s REAL savior device.
March 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Does the N1 even have good 3D gaming? I tried looking it up in youtube but all I see are really cheap graphics. The palm pre alone can run IPhone 3D games and on top of that a few other cards on the background.
The Pre’s only fault is the hardware. WebOS+N1′s hardware would be a match in heaven!
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Speaking of backups – I went from Sprint Pre to Verizon Pre Plus and it reloaded and installed all the apps I had when i was with Sprint to the Verizon Pre Plus. Didn’t have to go back and do it manually – it reloaded everything just as I left it.
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Palm pre plus have WebOS and have Mobile Hotspot..enough said I think..
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:33 pm
“The palm webos is clearly a better os and the mifi, touchstone charger, over the air updates, free online backups and superior multitasking makes this pretty clear.”
Android undergoes OTA updates (Unfortunately the mighty Sprint neglects this for all phones but the WebOS phones), Settings are stored in the cloud on Android 2.0+, and as far as I know (correct me if I am wrong), WebOS does not offer “true” multitasking, it stores things in the cloud when memory becomes full (This may be a long shot however, and therefore may be an invalid point)
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Like all the webOS fans in the thread are saying, Once you go webOS, you can’t go back. The intuitiveness and openness are second to none. Palm’s webOS gives the best of all three other platforms (iPhone, Android and BB):
**Like iPhone: Single source hardware and software for a consistent and polished experience, both for users and developers. Killer 3D gaming.
**Like Android: Wide open app catalog with side-loading and penalty-free hacking (and a linux-based OS ta’boot!) Multitasking, but much nicer!
**Like Blackberry: Guaranteed to have a physical keyboard and works perfect with Exchange out of the box.
I like webOS so much I’m willing to overlook the obvious shortcomings of my first-gen Pre, like only 8 gigs non-expandable, only 256 megs ram, no compass and occasional lag and resets. It doesn’t hurt that I love the form factor, which I agree is very much personal preference.
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:42 pm
You folks must all be high or something. I just switched from a Pre to an N1 and the difference is night and day. It is SO nice to have a responsive UI and a screen that doesn’t make my eyes hurt. And until you have seen the Google apps on their native platform, you really haven’t seen them.
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:44 pm
The Palm Pre does not have a “navigation ball”. If I send you guys a quarter, will you use it to buy yourselves a clue?
You also left out that Palm has pending releases on AT&T and T-Mobile. Not to mention true multi-tasking, 3-d Gaming and the first 5 out of 5 rating on Attack of the Show.
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
pre is kickin dat ass!! And you see all the haters CRYIN lol
March 22nd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
@nkbme: WebOS, Android, and Maemo are all based on Linux. The only one that is not open-source (GPLv2) is WebOS. WebOS is more polished than stock Android, but Android is more powerful. And last time I checked, the Pre+ could run under 1500 apps (excluding the ancient PalmOS apps.) Let’s compare:
N1 Pre+
5 MP camera+flash 3.2 MP camera
1GHz Snapdragon 600MHz ARM Cortex A8
MicroSDHC slot none
3.7″ 480×800 3.2″ 320×480
30,000 apps 1100 apps
Need I say more? And also, the HTC Incredible will add a more polished UI (HTC Sense) an 8MP camera, and more RAM and ROM, and will be on Verizon.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
I have the Droid and the Pre Plus. Android is good that it is made by google. I love navigating with google maps. But WebOS is definitely a better OS. The card system works so well and the 3d games are very impressive. Android is just too fragmented.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:11 am
I’m an early pre owner and an early android owner. If you have ever had eather for an extended period of time you’ll learn that the pre makes multi tasking so easy. oother then that they have the same basic features (exept the os of course) and remember, the pre runs on linuz.. Lets see wean they start porting full PS3 or IPHONE apps to android… They are already doing so for the pre… Too bad palm is worthless in the ad department…. And all you apple lovers out there… You gotta admit if the pre plus was by apple you wouldent have a single problem with it… Apple might cuz they wanna charge you for everything.. Including being able to record.. With the pres great os all I had to do was update my phone!
–from my pre..
—-make the best win
– note how they say android lovers and iphone lover yet thay say pwebos users…. Tells you something dount it?
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 am
This is all gonna come down to the Pre+ winning because of Verizon. They just kill Tmo way too hard. Yea the N1 has got better hardware. But you cant say that the hardware design on the Pre+ is bad. Its gorgeous. And all it really needs as a glass touch screen and some tighter screws in the slider and no one would be talking bad about it.
But oh well. Google didn’t lean from Palm’s mistake: Done EVER put your flagship device on an exclusive deal with a crappy carrier.
“A wise man learns from a another’s mistakes, a fool has to learn on his own”
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:19 am
i recharge my N1 battery every 26 hrs. Which other phone can claim that?
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:37 am
Anyone who has actually used both (an N1 and a Pre/Pre+) can tell you the N1 is superior – it’s faster, has a better screen and Android 2.1 is a better experience (more useful apps as well). Just saying you’ve used Android and then picking the Pre is a bit disingenuous – Android in general and N1 aren’t exactly the same thing… Android 2.1 + 1ghz CPU is a bit more than something like a G1/Hero, or even a Droid.
It seems the fact that most people haven’t actually seen, let alone used, a N1 up close is a detriment in this poll – it’s probably the best phone available at this point (though that changes all the time). I can’t imagine any other reason why would win this.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:38 am
The Nexus One has the Pre beat hands down when it comes to raw specs and build quality. However, Android doesn’t come anywhere close to the webOS experience. I have experience with both devices, but I own the Pre for that very reason.
That said, Palm needs to step up their hardware game as webOS alone won’t carry it forever…
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 am
bought an N1 to review android apps, found it to be everybit as laggy as my Pre (not plus) despite the 1Ghz Snapdragon. Tons of apps, most of them useless. Sad thing that Googles flagship phone doesn’t have the gaming prowess of the underdog Pre, it also doesn’t have webOS, easily the most fluid and intuitive smartphone OS I’ve ever used, including phone. I for one am rooting for Palm, and aside from the apple fanboys I reckon most people who’ve actually used webOS would too. I’m not talking 5 minutes on a store model, I mean really used it.
-Typed from my Palm Pre while my iphone and N1 collect dust.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 am
Hands down Palm Pre Plus! Anyone with a phone other than the great webos… take a week with the pre and they’ll never go back to any other mobile operating system.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 am
@PZ “But oh well. Google didn’t lean from Palm’s mistake: Done EVER put your flagship device on an exclusive deal with a crappy carrier.”
Haven’t been keeping up with the news lately, have we? Google’s flagship device will be on 3 of the 4 major carriers within the next few days… And all 4 possibly in a couple months
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 am
Palm is done. I had a Sprint Pre and while the card view idea is nice, the overall OS is no match for Android. The people that say Android is clumsy have never really used it and usually have no idea what they are talking about. Because you can have 20 cards open does not mean you can multitask better. Also fancy graphics and animations does not mean you have the ‘better’ OS. My Pre was painfully slow and frustrating to use, a frustration shared by many Palm users on the various forums. When the Supersonic and Nexus One hits Sprint, there will be lots of defectors which is going to put the final nails in the coffin.
Side by side Android is way faster and more optimized than webOS. Even with more memory the Pre Plus is slow in comparison to the lower end Android phones which is sad. What’s even sadder is the webOS app catalog. The only saving grace seems to be the handfull of ok games available for it but playing on that tiny screen has to be painful. Palm messed up from day 1 with the Pre but don’t want to admit it. They released a crippled phone with a crippled OS and is only now starting to scramble to patch it’s flaws but it’s too late.
My Pre gripes:
Tiny screen: compared to the competition it is painful to browse or read files on.
Crappy keyboard: too cramped and seemed to be designed for people with toothpics for thumbs. And no it’s not better than the Droid’s.
Crappy GPS: works half the time and telenav is no match for google nav.
Slow OS: webOS is SLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW! 2 minutes to start and 3-6 seconds to start most apps.
Lacking decent apps: most of the top apps aren’t ported yet and the only way to get certain functionality is to hack it. If you don’t mind using Preware and installing home made apps, it’s ok.
Dev community is small: if you’re a power user and into hacking and trying different third party apps Android is bigger, have more apps and is a lot more capable. WebOS is only scratching the surface right now and will need more time to mature.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 am
palm pre plus!!! 49 apps multi tasking plus a 3d game running with a text coming through without interrupting the game….palm pre plus got this one… Android just have better marketing and advertisements…the apps will come but they got alot of work to do with their os…webos is like a big app that no google or apple phone can touch right now
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 am
I love WebOs,but i wouln’t buy it.Is nice and clean,but is not functional like Android(especially 2.1).
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 am
I would love to see a combination of this 2,would be the perfect Os.Now as far as hardware the Pre sucks.The Nexus One battery is bigger than the Pre’s screen.Feel sorry for Palm and all people that bought the Pre.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
I’ve never touched a Pre, or the Pre+. I have, however touched the N1–in fact, I left AT&T and paid an early termination fee to get my hands on it. Buggy software? You can get buggy software for just about any device, it all depends on the developer. The OS is solid on the N1, even some of the optional OS flavors out there. Don’t know about fragmentation, haven’t had an issue with that. Wifi is good on it, touchstone charging is pretty much a gimmick (is it that hard to plug a charger into a phone?). OTA updates are available for N1, backing it up isn’t an issue as it comes with a 4GB microSD card, and the sucker can multitask pretty well…I mean, seriously, how many apps do you need running at once? You can only use one app at a time, so most of the arguments for the Pre+ are just ridiculous. Android is the future, and Palm is on it’s way out the door. See ya later, Palm!
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 am
Wow, extremely android biased descriptions of the N1 vs. Pre+
WebOS FTW every time.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 am
@Adrian
“Haven’t been keeping up with the news lately, have we? Google’s flagship device will be on 3 of the 4 major carriers within the next few days… And all 4 possibly in a couple months”
Umm so? Like Palm they failed to have good advertising and failed with releasing on an exclusive carrier that sucks. The only problem is that Palm has suffed almost three times less than the N1. Nobody knows about it.
Go up to your nearest 18 year old at your local mall and ask them whats the name of Googles new smartphone. Then watch in dread as they go “Google doesn’t make phones! I thought they were a website!? Wait, my head hurts!” Its a disgrace that a company as big and powerful as google fail so hard when it comes to spreading the word. Did they think that goddamn link on the site would suffice? Selling around 150k devices is absurd for them.
Adding their phone to more carriers is definitely gonna help. But they screwed up out of the gate bigtime. Its kind of an embarrassment.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:44 am
@Adrian
Maybe you haven’t kept up. The Pre, in some flavor, is on the top 3 carriers in the near future and is on 2 right now. So I’d say they are even for now.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 am
whoever said that the Pre doesn’t do true multitasking must have never used a computer before he typed his post. Any computer techie would tell you that it is the ONLY phone that performs true multitasking. With regards to the WebOS lag, I’d have to agree that the stock Pre is annoyingly slow to respond to taps and application calls. The N1 is purely smooth in this department. I overclocked my Pre to 800mhz though, and now there is NO lag. Problem is, Palm needs a good phone that can do this without tweaking it. Overall, I can’t ever see myself going away from WebOS. It’s just too fun to use. Everything else is boring and one dimensional. Fliping through my open apps, playing Pandora, surfing the web, and texting friends, all at the same time simply by swiping my thumb around is just too easy and fun to do. Going to a one dimensional OS would be like a step backwards. Palm Pre hands down.
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 am
there is clearly some hating going on from android’s side. in little over a year, the pre has been battling almost if not all smartphone devices out there and has held it’s own weight! sure the app catalog isn’t the biggest out there but neither were the iphone or android phones when they came out. ITS GROWING DAILY!!! with its over the air updates and the ability to develop anything you want for your phone, palms webos can never get boring (unlike androids plan os and the iphones dull apps homepage). WEBOS is the Future, people just get with it.
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:05 am
Very funny that this Pre Plus vs. Nexus One match up has garnered more votes than the first five match ups, combined.
March 23rd, 2010 at 5:12 am
Wow the readers of this blog must be huge suckers thinking the Palm OS will even exist in 3 years… and not even realizing the N1 is hands down the best phone on the market. This poll is ridiculous.
I think people are voting it down because of some other Android phones that suck. Some of them do but definitely not this one.
March 23rd, 2010 at 6:10 am
Web OS is way better than Android. Nexus hardware is better than Palm Pre hardware in design and build quality. Personally though, I prefer a hard keyboard.
Both OS’ suffer from lack of decent apps.
March 23rd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Wow…the sheer ignorance displayed in both the comments AND the editors’ description of these devices is appalling.
Seriously, folks, if you’ve “never touched a Pre, or the Pre+”, as CaptainClueless above states, or think the Pre had a “little navigation ball” (it was just a button), you really shouldn’t be voting in this contest (let alone hosting it).
Read, experience, THEN vote, mkay?
March 23rd, 2010 at 8:24 am
It seems to me that everyone here is talking about add ons and updates not out of the box products here. On a spec sheet Nexus vs Pre, the Pre will run away crying any day of the week. I can buy extra batteries, apply system updates, mod roms, etc on any phone and make it better than any other phone. This match up is a no brainer. Someone has been sitting at there keyboard to long casting multiple votes.
March 23rd, 2010 at 8:30 am
I voted for the Pre, I own a Pre, and I’m proud of it, but I will say this about the Nexus, it’s running Android 2.0. That means Google has had a lot of time to refine the operating system and design it for a very specific hardware.
I’m sure the Google phone is really great. And if Palm can survive long enough, WebOS 2.0 on a 1ghz cpu will be great too. But the fact that WebOS 1.4 is, at this time, beating the Nexus 1 means that a) We Pre owners are rabid fans and well organized, and b) Nexus fans are not.
It’s like watching a really good, young hockey team, heading for the playoffs, getting bested by the Leafs. (Apologies to Pre fans for the comparison)
March 23rd, 2010 at 8:42 am
The Palm Pre DESTROYS the Android in terms of ease and usability. Synergy for the Palm Pre is superior and gotta love that touchstone, shape, and size of the phone. GO PALM PRE!!!
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:01 am
All you android fanboyz can s*ck it! The fact is Android is nothing special and if it wasn’t given away for free to every handset developer incapable of developing their own OS none of you would be using it right now! Is it powerful, yes…is it usable, sure…is it jawdropping, absolutely not! WebOs is open, powerful, and innovative! Funny how you kids go on and on about apps like you own a frickin iPhone, at the end of the day how many apps can you install on that N1 of yours? That’s right, 512mb worth! That’s like bragging you can buy as many cars as you want from the dealership but leaving out the fact that you have a 1/2 car garage at home only large enough to fit a Mazda Protege’! And why are you going on and on about specs? Who gives a f*ck? So you’ve got a snapdragon processor that can’t run 3D games, and a 5mp camera to take pictures of your friends getting drunk in HD! How fast can you type a$$ hole? Can you turn your phone into a mobile wifi hotspot? Can you sync your calendar & contacts with google, yahoo, facebook, linkedIn, and other apps on your phone effortlessly? Can you carry conversations by txt and multiple IM services without changing apps? Does your N1 combine multi tasking with task management in a way that completely blows away anything else on the mobile market? Can you pinch to zoom without 3rd parties and lawsuits b*tc@s? Can you, by simply typing, find phone numbers, directions, movie showtimes(whoops there goes the need for about 14,000 of your magical apps), make a phone call, send a txt, an email…all without opening an app or going “tap, tap” on your screen? Can you utilize your keyboard or gesture areas to create shortcuts and enhance the actual functionality of your phone? What’s that? No? Don’t feel bad you’re not the first fanboy to suddenly realize you have a limited and inferior platform…keep your head up though cause your phone is made by Google and you have live wallpapers and you have Google maps! Go shoot a wedding with your 5mp camera, have a drink, and you’ll feel much better! WebOS suckas!
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:11 am
the pre plus is just a more polished experience. android is still a bit rough around the edges. and also, apparently the nexus one isn’t meant to be put in your pockets (http://gizmodo.com/5486397/htc-dont-carry-your-nexus-one-in-your-pocket), whereas the pre plus slides right in there! speaking of sliding, want a physical keyboard? out of luck on the nexus one. you get BOTH physical and virtual keyboards on the pre plus with a simple patch.
sorry nexus one. love the big screen, but that just doesn’t cut it. GO PRE!
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:14 am
I own a Palm Pre (Sprint) and have abstained from voting. Mostly because I simply do not have a chance to play w/an N1. As a result there’s no way for me to make a comparison. Personally, I think the reason that the Pre is winning this battle (at the moment) is due to the fact that so few people really know what an N1 is like. You can’t go into any store and touch it, play w/it, feel how it performs.
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:35 am
poll is flawed… way too many vzw fanbois to contend with …. Nexus One is CLEARLY superior… won’t be reflected by the votes though…. and to think these idiots voting for the Pre Plus will actually be getting the Nexus One on their shitty vz network soon….
good job vzw losers!! you have proven your blind lemming mentality trumps a solidly superior device…
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:48 am
I went to the verizon store to get a droid. The rep told me how much better the droid was. Then I tried the Pre Plus. Spent the afternoon comparing the two for the stuff I do most. Bought the Pre Plus. Haven’t looked back. I show it to my Droid and iPhone friends, and they are impressed (and surprised) at how powerful it is.
Those that are talking smak about Pre Plus… how many ever owned one, or even tried it?
And don’t tell me Android is more open. WebOS is all about Linux
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:51 am
Because of the unique way the Google N1 is sold, there just hasn’t been much consumer adoption. While sales for the Palm Plus Pre are weak, there are far more in consumer hands. I don’t think very many consumers can offer feedback on the N1 vs. the Palm device. It is more of a poll on the Palm device.vs. the N1 on paper, or Android in general.
That said, I am seriously considering the Palm Pre Plus as my next smartphone. As a user of the Samsumg Omnia (I not II), just about anything out there would be an upgrade. Winmo drives me batty, and the touchscreen performance on the Samsung is frustrating. I am holding off till i get my hands on the expected HTC Incredible, which will be offered via normal sales channels & ought to be a very close cousin of the N1.
Wonderous OS vs. robust & growing android apps? somewhat unique hardware design vs. sleek candy bar with zippy processor? should you seriously consider a device from a company that may be out of business in 12 months?
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
If you research the android app store you will find that the fragmentation of devices makes it very difficult for developers to make one app for every single device out there. Remind anyone of winmo? It should. I work in tech and can tell you android IS the new winmo crap. They spew out tons of different devices, allow the hardware manufactures to skin it which means that a user switching from android on one device to android on another device will get different experiences. Not exactly a great idea which is one reason the iphone took of for apps. Now look at msft and winmo series 7. They are making sure there are limited devices bc they learned their lesson. The big brother of Google has gotten a bit out of control and I personally recommend people to understand what the purpose of this “free” software is as big brother Google slowly tracks you. Enjoy that. Oh..have fun plugging your device in for updates and charging. Enjoy the 3d games you dont have and watch the app catalog of palm slowly catch android and wonder why that is since the phone has been out about 9 months and the app store much less. Ask developers which platform has better development tools and you will find that palm is embracing dev better than android. WebOS is a better os. The hardware is personal preference but just putting a big engine in a car to make it go fast doesnt mean its a better car. ie take a muscle car vs a Lotus Elise and the Lotus is a much better driving experience.
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 am
I’ve had three of the competing phones, and I’ll rate my experience, best first: Palm Pre, because of it’s ability to run WebOS. It is far superior in most regards to either of the other OS’s. Second, iPhone, because of the great UI, and if you like useless apps, Apple’s got them. The Nexus was purchased on a whim and I shouldn’t have done it, mostly because the only carrier at the time was tmobile. The Nexus is a nice phone, but still feels very rough to me; like it’s apps aren’t quite finished yet.
An earlier commenter mentioned the different carriers… Palm’s devices are available on seven carriers that I can think of currently, and this morning China Mobile announced they’d be carrying them as well. So your argument is moot. With Google pulling out of China yesterday, the Nexus won’t be headed there anytime soon.
I can tell you this: The people here that are plugging the Nexus probably haven’t used the Pre, and vice versa. WebOS is currently superior to Android. The Nexus hardware is superior to the Pre’s. For me, it comes down to usability and plan pricing.
March 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 am
Jacob Aguirre, you are apparently breathing in a little radon sitting in your mom’s basement all day. The polls are closed and the Pre won. This poll obviously wasn’t scientific but something that HAS been proven here is that you’re a dumb-ass.
March 23rd, 2010 at 10:23 am
GO PRE!!!
N1 wins in Hardware/Apps
Pre+ wins in OS/Games
take your pick, I’m going with the Pre.
@Vociferous – I don’t appreciate being compared to the Leafs!!!
March 23rd, 2010 at 10:31 am
Seriously? Pre+ is beating Nexus One. Wow. I’m speechless.
March 23rd, 2010 at 10:32 am
When does the poll close? It was 9:00 AM for the Pixi matchup, but this one is still going.
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
VZW Fanboys FTW
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/rumor-palm-may-ditch-webos-for-android/
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:25 am
ummm @ethic3 …. pretty much everything you “asked” if a nexus one could do… it can, lol. Since I know a couple of people with it, I have only gotten to play with it a little bit (I am waiting for it on VZW!). So, anyway, from what I can tell, your argument is null and I haven’t even gotten in to deep with it… lol. You obviously haven’t seen some of those nexus one side by side comparison youtube videos.
I will never understand why people get so defensive on something that they took no part in making. Just because you own something doesn’t mean it’s the greatest thing out there. Maybe YOU like it, but who’s to say the person next to you will like it the same way?
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:30 am
I have used both palm pre and nexus one.
I agree that nexus one has a superior hardware
but palm pre webos is the best of all oss out there
It is very user friendly, intutive and comfortable.
Every one has been saying that android is better coz it is free.
If you use webos once you will never want to use any other os.
Multi tasking on webos is far better android.
the more the time you spend with pre the more you will love it.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Seriously, can people stop saying that WebOS is more open because it’s a shell of Linux, and stop mentioning the OTA updates? First, Android is also a shell of Linux. Second, being Linux on it’s own doesn’t make it more open. In any way. You can still make a closed Linux platform. And about the OTA updats, Android has always had them. Like, always. Now, I’ve never played with a Palm Pre (I haven’t even seen one over here in England) but it sounds like 50% of these Palm owners have never used a Nexus One, and I think that people should look into stuff before spurting off crap.
And Ethic, yes, my N1 does do all of that stuff
Also, 512mb is actually cut down to about 200mb once you factor in the OS being stored on there and stuff. BUT, that 200mb is only for the core executable of the app. The resources go onto the SD card. Hence why I have 100+ apps on my phone with more than 50mb left, included at least 20 high graphic, 3D games.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
I wonder if all these people know the Palm is going to be ditching WebOS for Android. I find that kind of ironic.
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
http://www.phonenews.com/calling-the-2010-phone-of-the-year-palm-pre-plus-10589/
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:58 pm
I wonder if Paul realizes that story was 100% false.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/palm-moving-to-android-to-stay-alive-not-according-to-palm/
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
lets go pre
March 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 pm
You guys really thought the Nexus would beat up on the Pre Plus?
March 23rd, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Wow, I’ve used both and nexus has so much more going for it. clearly this is based on people never using a nexus. A rooted nexus one currently spanks any phone out now. Props to android and HTC. Pre is a great phone, but going head to head… Nexus out shines on so many levels. plus palm market kinda sucks compared to android. so lets not argue unless you’ve used both devices.
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Quote: Random Says:
March 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 pm
“How about making a non-bias description for the Pre. You basically described it as Suck ;-( While also putting in none of the negatives that you listed in your own review for the phone”
The nexus is far superior than the palm, is barely anything bad about it, is nearly flawless.
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:13 pm
(Dusts hands off)
Well Web OS users. Thats one down. Iphone is next!
And aint it ironic how bad the palm phones have had it and they still come out ahead. The pre has won its hardest match yet and its just the first round.
Has it sunk in that Androids flagship phone has lost in the FIRST ROUND!
Lesson learned: Dont mess… with Web OS!
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Give me a god damn break, any dumb a** that thinks the palm is better than the nexus one is a moron. The only reason it lost is because hardly anyone owns one. I have used both phones and the N1 is clearly a better phone all around. Nice work morons voting against a phone you have never used.
March 23rd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
webOS kick ass to Android OS! Palm Pre is so far superior!
March 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
All comments against Palm Pre Plus were useless according to the final results… and man! 7,714 votes ! There are out there a lot of fans and anti-fans of Palm Pre Plus. As my Grandma used to say, let them talk about you, even negative comments, better than no one cares.
Plam Pre and webOS are making history. As Matrix for the movies, as Bluray for Video, as Wii for Game-Interaction… Keep hating Palm, you are making Palm a Favor
March 23rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Almost no one, in any of these match ups, will have actually used both devices. That being the case, the very fact that that these match ups still exist, makes it perfectly legit to vote for one phone without ever laying hands or even eyes on the other.
And was anyone actually naive enough to think this was anything more than a popularity contest? I’m still betting on the iPhone 3Gs to win everything for not one other reason than its popularity.
The Nexus One was certainly hurt by its abysmal numbers. Heck, if that’s true for the Pre, as has been claimed time and time again, it’s overwhelmimgly true for the Nexus One.
March 23rd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Here you go Android lovers!
Your Nexus and Droid are now obsolete: http://now.sprint.com/evo/?INTCID=CM:AB:20100323:UHP:Masthead:EVOPrelaunch:1000×190
Too bad, too. That was a nice 3 month run you had going…
March 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 pm
I own a Pre and tested the nexus one for a while. Not only 10 seconds. So don’t tell me that only fanboys voted for the pre plus.
If you’re looking for the best hardware, many apps…just all the things that sounds best on the paper…go and get the Nexus One. In my opinion, the virtual keyboard can’t beat any physical, because in many cases it didn’t type the letters i intended. Everything works good. But what makes this phone special in style? For sure, a great phone, but what makes it different from a coming HTC desire or all the other android phones in the jungle?
If you’re looking for a tool, that makes life easier, go and get the Pre (or any other WebOS device)
I’m syncing my exchange mailbox and my personal to one device. They’re melting to one
I’m syncing 2 IM accounts to one device. They’re melting to one
I’m syncing 6!!! (SIX) calendars to one device. They’re melting to one
I’m syncing my different contact information from each account to one contact.
Running 10 cards in the background and flipping between them.
with the global search i’ll find my information by just start typing in the fastest an most intuitive way
The physical keyboard is ok. And it won’t cover the half of the screen.
Have i mentioned touchstone?
Show me another device, that makes life so easy. It is a TOOL for almost everything.
WebOS is superior. Even if it’s not HD, no snapdragon, poor battery
March 23rd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
I couldn’t say it better, Daniel.
March 23rd, 2010 at 9:35 pm
i dont understand why this contest is based on voting, people are ignorant, its sad but true. for a contest to be legit it should be decided by professionals. Just yesterday CNET made a list of the top 5 phones out there, they didnt decide on popularity, sales, or any of that shit; but on cold hard facts. The fact is that the N1 won. The palm pre plus came in 5th. This contest was decided by professionals whose lives revolve around cell phone rating and usage. All these dumb ass palm pre users who think they won are idiots. All they have won is a popularity contest.
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:02 pm
WebOS is by far the most advanced OS for smartphones. Multitasking is ingenious. Picture quality in photos and video is superior and is only gonna get better. Tethering is a breeze and fast, it’s close enough to high speed internet that I don’t even bother with a internet provider and that adds extra security to your home computer or laptop. Nobody integrates the notifications idea better than WebOS. Synergy is awesome, you instantly have email, phone numbers, address and IM’s synced with your device from facebook, google, etc and updates that anybody performs. The web one of the fastest. You can instantly send videos and pics to facebook and youtube. This is the only device that can possibly run multiple Operating systems and emulators at the same time as though it’s an app. Think about it, PalmOS, ActiveCard,Qt, NesEM all running as a card because this device is so powerful! How about how easy it is to download from the app store and how well we integrate GPS with our apps. Don’t let me get started with our homebrew community, WebOSQI, Preware and our highly intelligent and motivated developers. So, to answer some questions, yes we can definitely tether, we can VPN and have remote access to our laptops and home computers if we want, the phone has the capability to connect to data while talking on the phone, the network is the only issue. So, yes if we get a Pre Plus on ATT. Here’s my questions. Can your device port other devices games and apps to your OS easily? Can it emulate other operating systems just for fun? Does it give you the freedom to not only choose, but to not be stuck in a box with what “they” want you to use it for? Does the maker of your phone not only openly acknowledge your homebrew community, and support them, but work with them? Do they come up with frequent updates or frequent phones? Do they make you pay for those updates? Can your phone even run quality 3D games? Does it have a touchstone charger that you can make work in your car as also a holder? Ours can!
March 23rd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Look I been with android since the first day. I played with the pre for like 15minutes about six months ago. And I can tell u this, ain’t nonthing messing with android. Unless u are a retard. I know u see how many phones are coming out running android! I mean come the hell on. Android is the FURTURE. And by the look’s of it pre is dead weight. Sorry I mean web os is pretty tight. But something happen and shit didn’t work out for u guys. But if it make u feel any better I hope web os last atlease 1 more yr. But in no way, shape or form is the palm pre have a chance against the NEXUS 1!!! We got like 13 android phones right now. On all 4 carriers. DO THE MATH!
March 24th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
lots of phones don’t mean the os is better. How long has 2.1 been out? How many phones got that update? When plam releases an update all their phones get it may be a day or two late but that’s far better than 3 and 4 months. Besides 13 phones and all of them look almost just like the last one a big slate with some bettons at the bottom. Not that impressive.
March 24th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Palm Pre = webOS = win, nexus is nicer hardware but nothing even comes close to webOS for usability
March 24th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Palm Pre & WebOS are great
If you tried the Pre when it first came out please try it again. WebOS has been updated many times and the phone functions much better.
March 24th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
nexus one of course
March 24th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
Have you noticed that almost all PalmPre-Haters are the only ones making the insults, showing their vulgarity and making obvious orthographic mistakes? Even me, whom english is not my mother language, I notice those mistakes. Aren’t we perhaps before a contest for cultural / educational level ?
March 24th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
I have had the opportunity to use the Pre Plus that one of our techies uses and I like it a lot. Only used the Nexus 1 briefly. I personally own one of the dumbest smartphones (Storm) in history. The grass is definitely greener over there. I have my fear that Iphone’s popularity, RIMM’s strength in the corporate arena and now the Androids are going to end up killing off the very awesome Pre+. It has a very intuitive OS and the keyboard is decent. I wish the WebOS would be available with other phones. Google has enough money to buy Palm out for like $4.00 a share maybe even half that before summer. Merge the best of the two and voila, iphone could be in for the fight of it’s life.
March 25th, 2010 at 10:08 am
I have always been a Windows Mobile user. My latest Palm Treo Pro was getting old hence had a go at the Palm Pre because I was looking for a new smartphone with qwerty. I miss the lack of a decent office app. Dataviz take their time to launch doc2go. My main concern with the webos approach is that apps depend so much on a good data connection. It is not uncommon to be out of 3g network while eg travelling the country and then my Pre has difficulty to access my apps. This is no issue with WM as you always have a copy of the app on your phone. I have no experience with Android.
April 2nd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
After reading all of the comments it seems like this poll is not about the 2 phones in question at all but instead about the OS of the devices so since they’ve got Winmo, Blackberry ,iPhone, WebOS, and Android in this little tourney why not just make it “which OS is better” (WebOS would still win probably but it’ll be a more fair comparison) cause I bet the nexus one would win if it had the thing alot of u are hailing as the sole reason the pre won on it as well, cause nothing is wrong at all with the hardware itself (yes I have a Nexus one but I’ve been wanting/trying to use WebOS forever but know nobody with one, with plans to get one, or any actual working display models).