Comments on: First Look: OLPC XO-2 http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20 News and views on today's hottest laptops, cell phones, and other mobile devices. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:37:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: yoetama http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-263601 yoetama Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:31:03 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-263601 electronic goods are good, especially if developed by the creative hands would be better and useful also not boring. electronic goods are good, especially if developed by the creative hands would be better and useful also not boring.

]]> By: Huzaim http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-111687 Huzaim Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:10:09 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-111687 the product is maxaaa the product is maxaaa

]]> By: JohSm http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-33597 JohSm Fri, 30 Apr 2010 02:09:44 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-33597 I was just wondering, iPad - did they steal the conceptual design partly from the XO3? Maybe Apple should give some of their enormous profit to this project or add an option to support the development of the XO3 for each iPad they do sell! When the XO3 was initially discussed everybody was thinking that it was impossible to produce such a product/device, today it's not! It's basically allready here! Why don't ask Apple to convert the iPad to an cheap XO3 / XO4 version: Make it more resistant to water / sunlight and smudge and attach a solar panel to it! (Simply an industrial version of the iPad) Remove some memory, less is cheaper! Replace the display panel, scratch proof, optimized for sunlight and outdoor usage! Replaceable battery, changeable higher capacity! Use cheaper components for wireless. Reuse the iPhone 3GS instead of the iPadchipset, maybe cheaper and it would not compete with the iPad performance. Use an open version of the "iPhone/iPad" OS, with free development tools but keep some compatibility! Then you are clear to go! (You don't need to re-invent it all.) /J I was just wondering,

iPad – did they steal the conceptual design partly from the XO3?

Maybe Apple should give some of their enormous profit to this project or add an option to support the development of the XO3 for each iPad they do sell!

When the XO3 was initially discussed everybody was thinking that it was impossible to produce such a product/device, today it’s not! It’s basically allready here!

Why don’t ask Apple to convert the iPad to an cheap XO3 / XO4 version:

Make it more resistant to water / sunlight and smudge and attach a solar panel to it!
(Simply an industrial version of the iPad)

Remove some memory, less is cheaper!
Replace the display panel, scratch proof, optimized for sunlight and outdoor usage!
Replaceable battery, changeable higher capacity!
Use cheaper components for wireless.
Reuse the iPhone 3GS instead of the iPadchipset, maybe cheaper and it would not compete with the iPad performance.

Use an open version of the “iPhone/iPad” OS, with free development tools but keep some compatibility!

Then you are clear to go! (You don’t need to re-invent it all.)

/J

]]> By: adetola adelu http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-21633 adetola adelu Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:52:42 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-21633 I heard about xo,but yet to afford one for my children. you may be of help to get 3 olpc across to me,thanks I heard about xo,but yet to afford one for my children. you may be of help to get 3 olpc across to me,thanks

]]> By: stella http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-20451 stella Thu, 21 May 2009 21:48:04 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-20451 wow,it is so cool!I am eagerly awaiting to see the face! wow,it is so cool!I am eagerly awaiting to see the face!

]]> By: arg0 http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-20412 arg0 Tue, 19 May 2009 17:21:38 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-20412 @Maxim, multi-touch is not just software on common touchscreens. The commonly used touch-screens have a XY-electrode grid which suffers from "shadow" points in case of multi-touch, i.e. simultaneously pressing 1 and 9 on a touch keypad yields the same signal as pressing 3 and 7. Therefore, multi-touch on a normal display only works for very specific applications (when no triangle formed by any 3 multi-touchable points has a right angle and an edge parallel to the X or Y axis) and, on a keyboard, would require ad-hoc placement of keys, i.e. re-training. To make those touch screens true multi-touch, you need to read out electrode lines/columns individually, which in most cases requires changes in the electronics. @Maxim,
multi-touch is not just software on common touchscreens. The commonly used touch-screens have a XY-electrode grid which suffers from “shadow” points in case of multi-touch, i.e. simultaneously pressing 1 and 9 on a touch keypad yields the same signal as pressing 3 and 7. Therefore, multi-touch on a normal display only works for very specific applications (when no triangle formed by any 3 multi-touchable points has a right angle and an edge parallel to the X or Y axis) and, on a keyboard, would require ad-hoc placement of keys, i.e. re-training.
To make those touch screens true multi-touch, you need to read out electrode lines/columns individually, which in most cases requires changes in the electronics.

]]> By: arg0 http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-20411 arg0 Tue, 19 May 2009 16:57:05 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-20411 A full virtual keyboard, besides the ergonomic issues, needs multi-touch, otherwise you'll have to settle for "sticky" modifier keys (shift, ctrl, alt...), which is awkward: e.g., think of uppercase letters, symbols, copy&paste... A full virtual keyboard, besides the ergonomic issues, needs multi-touch, otherwise you’ll have to settle for “sticky” modifier keys (shift, ctrl, alt…), which is awkward: e.g., think of uppercase letters, symbols, copy&paste…

]]> By: Muse http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-18299 Muse Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:17:08 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-18299 I recall reading this 6 months ago, but now am working on a couple funded projects having to do with energy awareness in the states. We are buying netbooks because they are cheaper than creating custom hardware for the first stage roll-out. Second stage roll-out could by in the 1000s to 10,000's of units. The programmable touch panel for keyboard is perfect for our purposes. As for touch typing. Anyone my age isn't qualified to comment because we are too vested in the old way of doing things. I learned to touch type on a manual keyboard which had (and still has) the keys arranged to slow the typist down so that the hammers wouldn't get stuck. Attempts with more efficient arrangements, like the Dvorak or Maltron layout never took off. Such physical devices were too personal to share and not portable. Back when I worked on desktops systems all day, I had a split keyboard that worked well, but now I use a laptop, which means that typing is harder, once again. Fortunately, I have a Wacom tablet to ease the the cut, paste, and arrange tasks. With a dynamic keypad, multi-touch, and some coding Python, I will personally make sure that such a device has a Maltron-style layout, where each finger has one column and each thumb has one row. Match that with predictive autocorrect, and you'll have text input arrange that is *easier* than the status quo, not less! I recall reading this 6 months ago, but now am working on a couple funded projects having to do with energy awareness in the states. We are buying netbooks because they are cheaper than creating custom hardware for the first stage roll-out. Second stage roll-out could by in the 1000s to 10,000′s of units. The programmable touch panel for keyboard is perfect for our purposes.

As for touch typing. Anyone my age isn’t qualified to comment because we are too vested in the old way of doing things. I learned to touch type on a manual keyboard which had (and still has) the keys arranged to slow the typist down so that the hammers wouldn’t get stuck. Attempts with more efficient arrangements, like the Dvorak or Maltron layout never took off. Such physical devices were too personal to share and not portable. Back when I worked on desktops systems all day, I had a split keyboard that worked well, but now I use a laptop, which means that typing is harder, once again. Fortunately, I have a Wacom tablet to ease the the cut, paste, and arrange tasks.

With a dynamic keypad, multi-touch, and some coding Python, I will personally make sure that such a device has a Maltron-style layout, where each finger has one column and each thumb has one row. Match that with predictive autocorrect, and you’ll have text input arrange that is *easier* than the status quo, not less!

]]> By: superman http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-15613 superman Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:56:41 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-15613 seems pointless to send starving kids laptops. seems pointless to send starving kids laptops.

]]> By: Maxim http://blog.laptopmag.com/first-look-olpc-xo-generation-20/comment-page-3#comment-15480 Maxim Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:56:14 +0000 http://blog.laptopmag.com/?p=1596#comment-15480 hello, personally I think its a great idea, however its a bit to little to late. now before you all start jumping out of your seat pulling hair and calling me an idiot, read to the end... :) the dual screen PC is not an innovation, there were attempts to produce just such a device in the past by Asus and other companies. now that doesn't mean its not a good idea, just a good old idea. second, i see a lot of people saying the low power device availability is a problem. well i have to disagree, there have been and will be in the future many low power consuming devices out there that can be integrated into this kind of device and today processor technology is making advancements at an astronomical rate so is not difficult to imagine this computer in action well sooner then 2010. three, people can complain all they want about DVD screens been low rez and low quality, but i for one think that portable DVD screens are good enough. there are many models out there that can be used and besides, there are plenty low cost solutions out there. four, multi touch... well for some reason people think that multi touch is some sort of miracle invention that cant be duplicated since apple came out with the iphone, well brothers and sisters here it is. multi touch IS SIMPLE SOFTWARE, if a 14year old kid on youtube can make his tablet become a multi touch with just a few software changes, or a guy can make a multi touch sketch pad out of a shoe box then its that simple! in short, the guys at OLPC have promised to give us Star trek like computer of the future.. well i salute them for that. but lets all remember that the technology to do so was around for far longer then we realize, the reason it wasn't implemented till now is pure economics, why bother market a new type of invention if the old one has not yet paid of its dev. costs... hello,

personally I think its a great idea, however its a bit to little to late. now before you all start jumping out of your seat pulling hair and calling me an idiot, read to the end… :)

the dual screen PC is not an innovation, there were attempts to produce just such a device in the past by Asus and other companies. now that doesn’t mean its not a good idea, just a good old idea.
second, i see a lot of people saying the low power device availability is a problem. well i have to disagree, there have been and will be in the future many low power consuming devices out there that can be integrated into this kind of device and today processor technology is making advancements at an astronomical rate so is not difficult to imagine this computer in action well sooner then 2010.
three, people can complain all they want about DVD screens been low rez and low quality, but i for one think that portable DVD screens are good enough. there are many models out there that can be used and besides, there are plenty low cost solutions out there.
four, multi touch… well for some reason people think that multi touch is some sort of miracle invention that cant be duplicated since apple came out with the iphone, well brothers and sisters here it is. multi touch IS SIMPLE SOFTWARE, if a 14year old kid on youtube can make his tablet become a multi touch with just a few software changes, or a guy can make a multi touch sketch pad out of a shoe box then its that simple!

in short, the guys at OLPC have promised to give us Star trek like computer of the future.. well i salute them for that. but lets all remember that the technology to do so was around for far longer then we realize, the reason it wasn’t implemented till now is pure economics, why bother market a new type of invention if the old one has not yet paid of its dev. costs…

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