Responsible for the editorial vision for Laptop Mag and Tom's Guide, Mark Spoonauer has been Editor in Chief of LAPTOP since 2003 and has covered technology for nearly 15 years. Mark speaks at key tech industry events and makes regular media appearances on CNBC, Fox and CNN. Mark was previously reviews editor at Mobile Computing, and his work has appeared in Wired, Popular Science and Inc.
All the features you mentioned still are inside of apple ecosystem like apple tv ,ipad or iphone.If you have other devices like android ones then these features are useless as u mentioned.Windows 8 will also have that cross syncing across different devices
This article made me lose all credibility in your site. It sounds as if Apple has now paid you to rate their products so highly, or maybe you finally succumb and drank the Kool-aid. Either way, I suggest you change the site’s name to AppleLaptops.com, I hear the domain is available, and join the ranks of every other company who has put Apple in their back pocket. Disgraceful.
All the features you tout for the Mac have been in Windows for quite some time now. Maybe if you would have learned how to use the features in Windows, you could have saved a thousand or so dollars and been more productive using Windows. So the real reason I should ditch my Windows 7 laptop for a shiny new Mac is because you didn’t know how to use your Windows laptop and its features like Live Mesh/Skydrive, Office, Outlook, etc.
If you’re going to tout one product over another, at least find some features that truly differentiate the product and make it better. All you’ve done is identify features that make Mountain Lion a copy-cat of Windows.
Justin; Greg; George;
‘How dare this idiot try other OSes. How dare he suggest Windows is not the bestest OS in the whole universe.’
“Disgraceful” “terrible” “pointless”
What is wrong with you people?? This isn’t an Apple fan site, this is a Windows guy you’re disparaging.
Are YOU being paid by M$ to dissuade us from looking at alternatives??
It certainly looks that way.
You lot talk of “drinking the Kool-Aid” but your posts suggest it is you that are under some form of mind control. I can’t think of any other rational explanation for these bizarre, irrational comments.
The three commentators above obviously never used a Mac. To their obvious dismay, there are reasons why people are switching from Windows in droves. Windows 8 with it’s tile interface is tacky looking and shouldn’t have ever been implemented in a desktop OS. Kudos to laptopmag for stating the obvious. Sorry that such an attempt at reality has to be ridiculed by the ignorance such as George, Greg and Justin. Let them fester in Windows hell. They deserve it given their audacity to talk about something they have no idea about.
Re: George P. Burdell
I think your post said it all in a nut shell, windows is just a mess, and you need to be a geek to use it. My friend has a Mac and he does not know anything about computers, and yet get more done then me. I think it’s time for me to buy a computer made for professionals and ditch my geek windows computer.
It’s not a comparative article between two different products, I see it only as an enthusiastic exhaltation.
Even if I am open minded, and I appreciate everything that just “works well”, both by MS and Apple, Ultrabook or MB Air… I really don’t like this post.
I guess some Windows users are now PO’d but this article is fine. The features listed are not all available on Windows. You can’t sync documents with an iPad or iPhone. You can’t dictate without getting a headset. There is no location based reminders app built into Windows that will sync with your iPhone (or any other phone). I guess the commenters can wait for Windows 8 but from my perspective, Moutain Lion is way ahead of Windows.
All you Windows user needs to get your facts. In 1990 I was using a Mac with graphic user interface and it took Microsoft 5 years later to have a similar features with Windows 95. Than Apple release OS X Cheetah, it took another 6years for Microsft to catch up with Apple with their Windows Vista. Micrsosft Skydrive is a copy from Apple iOS iCloud. Because Apple implemented iCloud to Mountain Lion does not mean it copied from Microsft. And unlike Microsoft Apple has 1 version of the operating system that does do whole lot. Not like Microsoft, you got Basic, Home, Business, Ultimate and Enterprise edition and to top it off, you got a choice between 32 bit and 64 bit version. With Apple operating system, you don’t have to worry about this, the installer will automatically takes care of this for you.
Speech to text – windows xp had it
Send perticular emails to a folder – outlook express had it in the 1990s
Syncing files with the cloud – mesh, skydrive, Dropbox.. Been there done that for over five years
Sending texts from PC – uh.. Outlook 2007 could do this (2008 on a Mac if memory serves)
Better than Xbox – uh yeah all the best games are on a Mac.. Oh wait, they aren’t.
TV on a laptop.. It called windows media center – been there done that in 2004
And your final argument is that the Mac is a great clone of windows 7? Ok we can agree that Mountain lion is just a knockoff of what has been capable on a windows PC for the last 10+ years.
These fatuous comments claiming that Windows has had these features all along lead me to suspect that someone has organized an astroturfing campaign. The public is slowly but clearly getting a clue about the differences between the two main personal computer platforms and the significant advantages that the Mac’s differences provide. It’s about time…
The first 3 comments fail to mention that the MS features they mention are sloppy in comparison to what OS X offers and that Apple offered such features first and tie them together better. They also ignore prior technology that both Apple and MS built upon such as SubEthaEdit that leveraged zeroconfig (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_configuration_networking) (aka Bonjour which Apple provides free for Windows users). So if you’re going to berate someone for being half-assed, you shouldn’t do it yourself.
Having said that, I will point out about streaming the desktop via AirPlay to a TV is something Apple is behind the loop on. A friend of mind has a PC laptop with Wi-Di (wireless display) that can stream his desktop to his new LG TV that has a compatible Intel chip. With Apple right now, you need an AppleTV box to do that. There is no TV with such built in and the only the one likely to will be built by Apple and the ability will not be licensed to other TV manufacturers. So on one hand you have a closed system (Apple’s) vs an open system dependent on buying the necessary chips from Intel
And finally for all the platform fanbois (that means Windows users, too, there is a place and a need for both platforms and when you talk about innovation, be grateful for Apple. It has driven innovation the personal computer market since Bill Gates said he saw no reason for a computer to ever need more then 640k (yes, k, not MB let alone GB). And Apple is the one that has been pushing Intel chip development for the last 10 years for both smartphones and desktops. You wouldn’t even have smart phones if it weren’t for Apple. The same for Ultrabooks, which are just MacBookAir’s with your favorite PC vendors name on it. Those Intel commercials on TV about ultrabooks being from Intel – the ones that look like the Airs? Apple forced Intel to build.
So get in, shut up, hold on and enjoy your favorite computer
“iCloud Keeps Devices, Files in Sync” – Windows has this, it’s called “Windows Live Mesh”, and unlike iCloud it’s FREE. Previously, in VISTA this was simply called “Sync Center”.
(This was MobileMe which has been a Mac feature since the time XP was introduced))
“AirPlay Mirroring Transforms TV” – not needed if you have HDMI.
(airplay is behind the curve, yes)
“Speak to Type” *SIGH* Came as part of Windows VISTA…but not listed as a new feature, so probably debuted in XP.
(Speak and type was a feature of OS 9, the contemporary Mac OS of W95)
“Game Center: Take That, Xbox” – Game For Windows LIVE debuted with VISTA, but was less supported than the XBox version. Then again there’s also STEAM.
(game center was first a feature of iOS for iPhone and Touch iPod)
“Notifications All In One Place” – Called “Action Center” in Windows 7.
(This was a feature of iOS before W7)
So that is:
And before you get all irate and badmouth me, consider where M$ is today. W7 is M$ copying OS X. OS X copies some of the worst eye candy features of W7. It is all copy back and forth but if M$ didn’t have Apple to copy from, you wouldn’t even have Windows today, you’d have a command line system called DOS still. personally, I wish if Apple is gonna copy from M$ they’d grab off the “copy to” feature
There’s no astroturfing here. My point is that the article is poorly researched. I would much rather have seen an article with 10 UNIQUE features of Mountain Lion. Sadly, this was not the case.
To the poster who referenced the Apple OS GUI. The design was copied and then enhanced (notice I didn’t say “stolen”) from an OS named “Alto” designed by Xerox’s Palo Alto research center.
BTW, I’ve used Apple products since my mom first bought an Apple II. I’ve owned a Mac IIsi. I have clients and collegues who use Macbooks and iPads. I’ve also used SGI workstations and Amigas over the years. Every computer system has it strengths and weaknesses.
From someone who has used Windows and Macs side by side for over 20 years, most readers, please, ignore most of these comments. They don’t really know much about how computers work, who uses computers, or *why* things work on computers or how best to leverage them.
I was a Windows user for over 15 years. I made the switch to Mac 3 years ago and I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO WINDOWS! The similarity between Windows and OSX is that their both operating systems. End of story! Windows is a DOS based hot mess. Thats why the only people willing to defend it are IT professionals and thats based on job security. Anytime you mention Apple to an IT professional they go into this desperate defensive stance against it because they know it would cut their staffing by 3/4. There is a reason they are the fastest growing tech company on the planet and that is because they build intuitive, stable, and secure products. All the things Windows is not! I used to think Apple put subliminal messages in their OS and that their users were zealot weirdos, but now I understand its because we have found a better way of computing and want to share it with the masses. Once you go Mac you never go back!
It amazes me to see such one sided articles like this. Obviously the author has missed many of these features that have been available since XP or Vista and carried forward to Win 7 and now Win 8.
Windows 8 is a bold new change in the windows world, completely changing the UI and not just copying the iPhone UI to the tablet and now their desktop interface, really how lame is that of Apple. Also since the new Metro design of MS was released with Windows Phone 7 Apple started borrowing ideas and concepts from that for iOS and now Mountain Lion.
Everyone I have shown the new Win 8 interface too loves it and says how easy and simple it is to use and says that apple interface pales in comparison.
The Apple fan base is just that a fan base just like the Microsoft fan base, but at least be honest and factual with your articles before writing them.
Are you serious? Have you looked at the support forums for the ML release? There are thousands of posts and many completely hosed up Macs as a result of this release. IMHO, this is the worse thing to ever come out of Apple. Let’s hope it in not the new normal for post Steve Jobs.
All the Apple haters don’t seem to accept that although Windows may have had some of these features already, the fact is that Windows is such a mess that you can’t easily find those features. let alone use them. I’ve had XP for years and was forever tearing my hair out and gave it up for a Mac. Just no comparison. The Apple haters just don’t get it and never will.
It seems that the author also forgot to mention a few HUGE reasons to stick with MS.
1. Cost: Even though you’re paying 200-300 dollars for the OS, hardware upgrades are very cheap.
2. Cost again: If a MS person was to dump MS and go to Apple it would cost them dearly. It will cost thousands of dollars for a new computer, hundreds of dollars (If not thousands) to port your current software library over. Don’t give me that VM BS, software functions better in its native environment. You can’t just upgrade or even build your own Apple without going through Apple or “Approved” hardware vendors. They rape you on cost. The day Apple allows for compatibility with other hardware manufactures without having to “FrankenMac” is the day I may consider switching. Until then, Apple can have that high-class, high-horse, high-price attitude they have developed so nicely and sit in the corner.
I find that Apple is exactly what they were fighting against back in 1984 with their big commercial saying that they would never control everything. Yet they do just that.
I found this article to be so full of yak squeeze that I couldn’t believe it. Someone returned a Mac Book Pro because “it was too complicated to use”. Another returned one because “his wife thought that it was too expensive”. I see more Apple returns as well as other Apple products on a regular basis. I can’t believe the number of people returning it because it just doesn’t work for them. They think because it’s Apple that it will be perfect but they find out all too often in the end that it isn’t that way.
By the way, I love how Apple keeps quiet about all the security leaks in their software. For years I heard how secure it was, now you have to buy anti-virus software to keep it safe. What happened to all that great security Apple?
What I can’t figure out is why would I want a computer that I can’t upgrade anything but the hard drive and memory? Why would I want a computer that I can’t do serious gaming on? Why would I want a computer that I have to buy their proprietary software to use for most of the stuff on it? Why would I want a system that is so expensive that I have to take a loan out just to pay for it?
I agree with the above post.
Even I switched to MAC Last Year and now I would say WOW!
Everything is fast and fun unlike windows looking for errors/troubleshooting to the Problems.
I am thinking of replacing all my Office Windows Computers with MAC.
All I can say is MAC just works the way you want and whenever you want.
For gaming, I still use windows..
@Tushar: MAC = Memory Access Controller. Mac = Macintosh, and I’m sorry to hear that you had a POS for a PC. I guess I’ve just always been lucky.
@Stu: You’re correct on most things:
However, Outlook should not have been considered as part of your argument. It is not a part of the Operating System like the Apps the Author mentioned. I think you also may be confused as to how syncing works in iCloud.
It is tied right into the apps and it works the moment you start your document. It doesn’t require an expensive version of MS Office. Pages (Word for you MS peeps) on the iOS side is also notorious for deleting images from my Pages documents created in Mountain Lion, which is also immediately reflected in Mountain Lion—that’s how good the Cloud is. It’s instant! The good news is that the Mac Apps have Versions and I can easily step back from the beauty gifted to me from the Cloud.
Also, the Cloud’s impel enation is an obtrusive nuisance, unlike SkyDrive and Drop Box. I believe that the author left out the part where the Cloud dialogue jumps in your face and demands a choice before even starting a document. Writing a simple TextEdit (Notepad for you MS peeps), now requires extra steps just to get started unless you turn off the Cloud for Documents, which I sadly have done.
SkyDrive and Drop Box don’t do this. Though I care very little for Drop Box. I prefer the SkyDrive ‘method’ that requires the costly MS Office—it is non-intrusive and is only present if and when I choose to put my document in the Cloud after I am done rather than before. I would like it if iCloud behaved with the same manners as SkyDrive—only showing up when called. I can still upload my documents individually to the Cloud though. So not all is lost.
Basically, the Cloud for either OS is still in its infancy and neither is really much better than the other.
Also, some very good games are finally making their appearance on the Mac. This, I am happy to see because I enjoy a good killer game every now and then. These things may very well catch up to each other after a while and the point will be moot.
As for WSR, XP did have it first and it was terrible. It has come a long way since then and I much prefer it over Mountain Lion’s cumbersome Speech implementation. I can train it yourself. I can enter particular phrases or abbreviations into its Pronunciation Dictionary and it can understand me when I’m whispering. It doesn’t require an online connection and a button press before every utterance that can’t last more than 30 seconds or everything that you say gets cut off.
Am I the only one who has to raise my voice to get ML to understand me? Everyone defending it is making it sound better than sliced bread. Experiences differ, I guess.
Anyway. I agree with most posts here. This article was a glorification rather than a comparison, and that’s coming from somebody that actually likes Mountain Lion. Anyone that uses both OSes on a regular basis can clearly see that others do not.
Pete – regarding your listing of cost as the #1 and #2 reason for sticking with Windows – if cost were really that important, one should switch from Windows to Linux, which combines the lower cost hardware (actually lowEST cost because it can run better on older/cheaper hardware) along with a cost of zero for the OS for most distros. Most Linux software is free as well. Somehow I doubt you’re going to do that though.
Regarding #2 specifically, what you’re talking about it vendor lock-in, which is sadly becoming a “competitive advantage” for both Microsoft and Apple nowadays. Comments above are saying things like “You can’t sync documents with an iPad or iPhone”. That’s the fault of Apple, not Microsoft. If Apple creates a proprietary product and keeps others from working with it, that’s not a plus from a consumer point of view; that’s a major minus. Microsoft’s SkyDrive is similarly proprietary, along with AppleTV, MS’ proprietary file and disk formats, etc. As a consumer one should support open standards (and cross-platform software, whether native or cloud-based) precisely so that one does not get locked in to needing to buy an MS/Apple/Google/whoever phone, tablet, office suite, e-mail program, database, etc. to work with their existing products.
Both the OS X and Windows supporters have made some good points about this list, but honestly the degree of lock-in being exhibited by both OSes (including Win8’s insistence that the only Metro apps that can be installed come from their own app store) is a turn-off for me. I wouldn’t want to have to buy into the whole ecosystem (phone, tablet, tv device, syncing service, etc.) in order to get full functionality.
Where do you PC geeks come up with “thousands of dollars” for an Apple device? Do you know anyone using an Apple device that costs thousands of dollars? What most Apple customers use to surf the web, send email, type documents, watch movies, listen to music:
— Mac Mini
— MacBook Air
All of these are under one thousand dollars. None are “thousands”. Geeze, guys. I’ve told you a million times not to exaggerate.
Windows 7 is just as fast as OS X. A little more care required on Windows 7 ie. Virus protection, defragmenting to keep it running snappy, and secure.
Both Operating Systems have there place.
If you know your way around Windows, you can probably do more as it is a more “open” OS, and supports much more software.
OS X is more user friendly and does a good job at “Marketing” the “Cool” features it has to offer, by putting them on the frontline (so to speak).
Mac Os X also really requires no maintenance, which is great for somebody like me that uses it for 8 hours a day doing video and graphic editing, and then leaves the computer on to remotely access it from home. I’ve had my computer running for over 60 days without a reboot (battery backup saved me from a couple short power cuts), no problems.
Windows 7 still runs faster for our RIP (render Imaging processor). I think (not sure) that this is because Windows does a better job of using Turbo Boost on the i7 processor.
Both have PROS and Cons. The big Con for Mac is the price tag, and software compatibility (getting better mind you).
The one advantage to having a Mac, is that you can still run Windows 7 all by itself in bootcamp (not parallel).
I still have to do this sometimes as some software is still only available for Windows (i.e.. quickbooks).
Any windows (7) user, (never used vista, been a while since I used XP) will know that a lot of the stuff in this article isn’t true. (esp the page comparing Safari and IE9. IE9 has the same things he listed and it works better too. It’s faster and doesn’t crash as often as Safari, and when it does, it automatically reloades the ONE page that was causing the problem).
Anyways, this is coming from someone that owned a macbook for a year, switched back to windows, but still uses Macs in school, so I know both operating systems pretty well. Now I’m not studying computer science or anything, but I consider myself tech-savvy. Overall though, I have to say that I much prefer the Windows operating system over OSX. Besides the two main arguments that PCs are cheaper and have more software, I find Windows 7 much more functional over Lion, the OSX I’m most familiar with. The taskbar in Win. absolutely trumps the Dock in OSX; it’s so much more functional. I don’t get why Apple still has a menu bar on top, and the dock on the bottom; it takes up so much space and doesn’t have very much uses. Other minor yet great features in Windows that OSX lacks are the desktop icons that snap into place, aero snap and aero peek.
I also personally hated the media organization in OSX with iPhoto and iMovie. It made searching for and saving files so cumbersome. Photos that were imported through iPhoto could only be accessed through the iPhoto library instead of computer-wide “my pictures” folder.
That’s not to say that I hate Apple and/or OSX. I thought Lion has some neat & handy features like Launchpad. Overall though, I much prefer Windows and do consider myself a Windows user (not a fanboy). As for Windows 8, I think people need to give it a chance before bashing it. I’ve heard of many people who were cautious about Windows 8 before using it, but actually liked it.
I won’t speak as to the difference between OSX and Windows, since I haven’t had the time or money to really use a Mac, but I currently have Windows 7 and the latest version of Fedora (a Linux distro, for those of you who don’t know what that is) dual-booting on two separate SSDs inside my laptop. Depending on what I want to do, I use one OS over the other. Most coding/development happens over in the linux sector, gaming happens over in the Windows ballpark (although surprisingly many of my games are playable on linux via playonlinux). I would assume that there exists a similar relationship between Windows and Mac.
Also, I wouldn’t actually tout Safari as a feature of Mac, as of the two of my friends that are diehard Mac users, both of them have the same opinion of Safari that I do of Internet Explorer (which is, of course, the most-browser to download other browsers). Lately, I’ve been using Chrome as it syncs everything automagically.
Also, @Lance, on the price point, any MacBook with any real processing power (e.g. not an air) will cost you well over $1000. If you compare the Air (Mac’s cheapest laptop-form-factor offering) to a cheap netbook, you are paying over 3x the price for similar hardware (even ultrabooks can be several hundred cheaper). NetTops are essentially mac minis but far cheaper. iPhones and iPads aren’t really relevant in the comments on an article about OSX/Mountain Lian
I have almost 20 years of professional IT experience with windows and mac here is what I have come to discover.
-unmatched for a professional business environment
-most of the software used by businesses only runs on windows
-hardware and software widely available and cost effective
-extremely reliable when kept up to date and routine maintenance is kept on it. (folks, I hear people say MAC OS doesn’t require any maintenance, this this BS!! it requires regular maintenance identical to windows, MAC just runs it all in the background so the user never sees it. Windows gives the user “control” over this and the ability to schedule or not run it at all)
-“pretty” but useless
-not enough user control over the os, simple troubleshooting tasks impossible
-not for business
-nobody but apple can supply parts or repair
-good products for simple minds to play on
The most incredulous thing about this article is that author does not afraid to look stupid in front of so many readers!
I mean take for example Icloud part!! It is not about MacOS or Windows or any OS at all. It is cloud storage, that can be viewed and edited since FTPs – for ages from anywhere!!! Sure if one changes document in any cloud service (including FTPs:):):) it will be changed when viewed from ANY other device!!! In fact MS office has it for ages, long before Ipad came to existence. And now there are thousands cloud services and most of them cross platform and moreover give much more functionality then Icloud. I think the author is a very brave person to write such stupid things!!!
Lost all cred at first slide, I quit reading. iCloud is worthless for real time coloboration and really stupid since it ties documents to a specific app. IOS is a joke compared to Android. I have an iPad, MBP, MBA and Mac Pro and several iPhones. Also Android phones and tablets and Win PCs. About ready to go back to Windows to get real work done since Apple closed system does not work in the real world.
I’m an apple enthusiastic and a Mac book pro user, yet I have to say that, out of all the “CRAP” i’ve read in my life, this is probably the WORST piece of crap. Why don’t you shut the f up and find “10 reasons to never blog again”. Idiot.
>-unmatched for a professional business environment
That’s a claim with no support offered. It’s also over-broad, given the number of professional business types that exist. All the major OSes have security, verification, etc. features that are requisites in the average business environment.
>-most of the software used by businesses only runs on windows
That’s just silly. The most ubiquitous business software is Microsoft Office, which also runs on Macs. Many of the major software titles nowadays are cross-platform, and more are moving to the cloud/browser (just as Office itself has). Every major platform has many alternatives for all of the standard business software types, from word processing and spreadsheets to reporting, data mining, accounting, image editing, document indexing, database, programming, POS (point of sale), etc.
I recently laid out an ideal software configuration for someone doing data mining/business intelligence work along with programming, with a heavy emphasis on statistical number crunching, enterprise-level database functions, reporting and custom software development functions. The setup had everything from initial mind-mapping through statistical analysis, ETL (extract/tranform/load) of database and XML data, data mining, GUI software development, enterprise-level client/server and local databases, reporting, web dashboards and automated rule processing and interaction with other sites’ APIs over the Internet to documentation generation, small business accounting, and text and VoIP communication for a dispersed development team. The amazing thing when I was done was that only ONE of the significant program choices (mathematics software SAGE) wasn’t cross-platform across the big three of Windows, OS X and Linux! In fact, the one platform SAGE won’t run on is Windows. Of course, using cross-platform Virtualbox and Linux will enable one to run SAGE under Windows non-natively.
Please don’t tell me it’s not possible to run a business without Windows, because many can and are.. and even if they aren’t, modern cross-platform software makes it possible to do so. For the little that isn’t cross-platform nowadays, competent alternatives exist.
>-hardware and software widely available and cost effective
You’re not counting the massive cost of Microsoft’s vendor lock-in… someday when you need to leave the software (and ALL software reaches end-of-life either on the user’s or the developer’s end someday) there’s going to be a significant cost to port or re-capture data locked in proprietary formats. Even with a two-year lead time of a functional policy of “when all else is equal choose cross-platform and if all else is still equal choose open source”, I still got burned by one scheduling program having a proprietary data format, an export function that turned out to be non-functional and the creator having gone belly-up in the interim. In this case, it was easier/cheaper to run the old and new software in parallel for two months rather than re-enter two months of data by hand. The cost-effectiveness of Windows software greatly depends on whether it employs open standards or not.
>-extremely reliable when kept up to date and routine maintenance is kept on it.
1) What isn’t?
2) It’s also the principal target of malware attacks and zero-day exploits, and
2b) the lazy “patch Tuesday” approach to security combined with MS’ occasionally letting security vulnerabilities linger for many months after reporting ups the danger of zero-day attacks (Apple was also guilty of this with their unpatched Java vulnerabilities).
2c) Just google “Excel statistical accuracy” if you want to find shocking tests from statisticians about how unreliable Excel has been, including functions that returned answers with ZERO digits of accuracy and many of these reported bugs lasted for several versions and took over a DECADE to fix! Statisticians published papers advising others in their field to completely avoid Excel for statistical work and even rhetorically asked in one paper “Does Microsoft actually fix bugs in Excel?” and one academic wrote that the Excel developers “simply were not qualified for their task” after Excel failed yet another set of public statistical accuracy benchmarks. Combined with Vanity Fair’s report that MS’ management style of “grading on a curve” leaves teams fighting their own members and the system rewards not helping co-workers, I’d be hesitant considering anything produced by Microsoft “reliable”. Heck, statisticians found that the open source spreadsheet Gnumeric, with only 3-5 unpaid developers, fixed all the bugs they found with it in a few weeks and was more accurate than Excel before then. Afterwards, Gnumeric achieved almost flawless performance on their benchmark tests over the decade Microsoft was busy replacing one set of flawed algorithms for a different set of flawed algorithms despite accurate algorithms being in the public domain and released a new random number generator that would sometimes spit out negative numbers (should return 0..1) even though that two had a public domain algorithm that should have tested against if not implemented. I won’t even get into the fact that Word’s “Master Document” feature has been broken from Word 95 through Word 2010 even according to the author of the Word 2010 Bible despite a conflicting report that the code was rewritten in 2007 (other reports say this was kicked down the road instead). I don’t know about Windows, but I wouldn’t let Office within 50 feet of anywhere I was responsible for choosing office software. The sad thing is that most IT people never even investigate choices or look into potential flaws, much less test potential choices for accuracy along with performance.
You’re paying for the software as well as the hardware, so it all depends on what the software is worth to you.
>-”pretty” but useless
I can’t take you seriously as an IT person with a statement like that. Per what I outlined above, I could install Rapidminer, LibreOffice, Python, PostgreSQL, SQLAlchemy, sqlite3, QT, Virtualbox, SAGE, R and R Studio, BIRT Reporting, ReportServer, doxygen, Scribus, GIMP, FANN neural network library, DEAP genetic programming framework, etc. on it and use it as a fantastic data mining/business intelligence/cross-platform in-house database software development tool for anything from retailer basket analysis to stock market trading rule development and automated trading desk.
The irony is immense given you’re defending the company that bought us “embrace, extend, extinquish” and whose Windows 8 had obtained the dubious achievement of locking down the desktop in a way Steve Jobs didn’t dare try (Win8 mandates all Metro apps be installed only through their store). Vendor lock-in is possibly MS’ only remaining competitive advantage, and it took yet another set of antitrust cases against Microsoft to force them to open up proprietary protocols that have enabled Samba to be implemented on non-Windows systems and enjoy cross-platform networking. We have the whole mess with Office and proprietary formats, etc. MS has never, ever embraced open standards (*cough* IE 6 *cough*) unless compelled to. They can’t possibly come off looking better than Apple here, and no one who’s been in IT as long as you claim could talk about MS being less proprietary with a straight face. Heck, this is the company that got caught introducing phony error messages into their products if they detected they were running on non-MS DOS to scare users! Come on, you lose all credibility when you play the proprietary card against MS’ competition.
>-not enough user control over the os, simple troubleshooting tasks impossible
This is a charge that can be leveled at MS as well, but at least Apple incorporates some open source into their OS.
>-not for business
By what criteria?
>-nobody but apple can supply parts or repair
Mostly correct on the hardware front.
>-good products for simple minds to play on
Now you’re talking like an (anti)fan boy and not a serious IT person. Again, the credibility vanishes.
Another point is that if one were serious about making lack of proprietary functions, cost and complete control of the OS their primary criteria for a business OS, one would be using a Linux distro like SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop rather than Windows or OS X. Since you’re not, yet again, it’s hard to take you seriously.
Last time I check, windows had talk to text. Also last time I checked, talk to text was worthless. No one cares about talk to text, you can type faster and twice as accurately. And for one safari isn’t better than ie 10, not by a longshot. In no way shape or form is safari better than ie 10. In fact safari is the worst browser out there.
After buying four IPads and two MacBooks for my kids, I finally broke down and bought an IMac for myself. I HATED IT! Although I loved my IPad 1, the IMac just sat on my desk like a stone. Why? It absolutely refused to stay connected to the Internet. Every time the machine went to sleep, it dropped its connection. It almost always dropped offline when I tried to do work on it. Meanwhile, both my five-year-old HP laptop and my IPad stayed connected. I took it to the Geniuses twice and had the IMac tested–to no avail. Finally, Apple issued an update and the wireless started working consistently. Although I still don’t understand why they don’t have a real “Delete” key, I use my IMac regularly.
When my HP laptop finally died, I bought a new HP. I paid $925 and had to return it a week later. I replaced it with a Dell that I tolerated for two weeks. I traded the Dell for another HP but returned it because the keyboard was peeling off. When I returned to Best Buy, I spoke with the Apple rep and told him how much I hated Windows 8 and the poor quality of the PC’s I had bought. His response: “If you’re going to learn a new operating system, why not make it Lion?”
I bought my MBP, installed Office, and I couldn’t be happier with the quality and performance. PC companies are in trouble if old school Windows users like me are switching…